Well, they do it pretty well 4 out of 5 times! Don't get me wrong..I love the show. But sometimes the guys talk about politics (maybe more "world" politics), and well, it really seems disjointed from the show.
hmm, thats your view and fine. But the TWiTs have had similar things before, and thats always the thing that makes me cringe on the show. Everything, fantastic..I love the show. But when they begin talking about world politics, I have to say, I have to cringe...
anyway, hea, each to his own!
dan@ hah. well i am not sure if its an argument, but i think its important. hea i don't want to tell anyone how to run their highly successful show :) but these things make me cringe.
To everyone who doesn't know me, Hi I'm Mike and uh hope you don't mind me weighing in but...
I don't like Leo saying A-rab because he says it like he knows that regardless of it's exact implication he knows he's treading a fine line and seems not to care.
Now I'm all for pushing the envelope but do it for a reason other than to be flippant and pass an offhand comment that isn't worth it's weight in cheese. Basically the inclusion of the word in a tech podcast serves no purpose. I flinched when I heard it.
i have a great problem this this tendency to designate different people to talk about different things - and no merge allowed.
i think what Leo says may represent attitude of a lot of people and whether you like it or not - it is what it is, better deal with it than live in imaginary reality
@overpills: hea....hmm,
"what Leo says may represent attitude of a lot of people and whether you like it or not "
I know for a fact what he mentioned about Iran, etc does not represent the attitude of alot of people from where I live...I have to say I disagree with you....on one main reason: if TWiT was solely American/English/Irish/[insert country here] based and solely for that market, then the TWiTs are entitled to say whatever the hell they like about other countries, as well, those countries will never (realistically) hear it.
For example: if I listened to a podcast that spoke about my country in a bad way, I would choose not to listen to it. If that podcast was only available to a certain country, etc..then fine, I do not have access to it, and therefore cannot complain.
But, with the sheer borderless features of the Internet (...and therefore podcasts) podcasters have to be slightly more understanding/open to other peoples feelings.
@mike: I am all for walking the cliff edge of what-to-say, but when you say things that are clearly not correct, then you should not say them at all. [Clearly I mean the same thing as you say!]
It really showed an unpleasant said of the TWiTs. And I didn't like it.
But hea, this wasn't meant as a "troll" message. If people are comfortable to continue, then fine with me.
i don't think he was expressing negative attitude. rather careless one and this is how a lot of people approach it - i study these things, for once i know the numbers.
my point isn't in discussing his approach, maybe i didn't make myself clear. it's the tendency to tell people that are not informed not to speak, so that we can live in false conviction that uninformed people have an opinion and it matters - for example when it votes.
No, I didn't say that it was a negative attitude..if he believes X, or Y, then fine. His views are his.
Careless-yes. And he being an International broadcaster, should just think when he (as everyone should) says something "off topic".
When he mentioned the terrible shootings in Virginia (I think) he dealt with that quite well. Did it belong in the show? Nope (as much as video games were mentioned). Did he have the right to talk about it? Definately. But he dealt with it well.
Making cheap shots at those I-raqis, I-ranians, whatever....I dunno, just makes me kinda flench. Like watching someone on TV digging a hole for themselves.
I am not as well informed in the ways of International politics (as I would like to!), but these kind of throw away comments regarding America/Iraq/Iran/whereverinthe_world annoy me.
Yes there are bad people in Iraq, yes there are bad people in Iran, yes there are bad people in America...but there are also good people.
If the American army can create a computer game, why can't the Iranian, or the Irish, or the Polish?
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and how exactly do you imagine separating the two?
2 years, 6 months ago by overpills
Well, they do it pretty well 4 out of 5 times! Don't get me wrong..I love the show. But sometimes the guys talk about politics (maybe more "world" politics), and well, it really seems disjointed from the show.
Just my 2 cent...
2 years, 6 months ago by runningwithbulls
except that it's be naive to think that you can seriously separate anything from politics this days..
2 years, 6 months ago by overpills
em, no.
When one of the guys says (paraphrasing) "all those guys in Iran, yeah all speaking A-Rab" (talking about the Iran army "computergame").
Iran is Persian, not Arabic.
My point is, either a) talk about politics (even partly) correctly, or don't talk about it at all.
2 years, 6 months ago by runningwithbulls
well that's a joke i'm afraid, not serious political comment
2 years, 6 months ago by overpills
hmm, thats your view and fine. But the TWiTs have had similar things before, and thats always the thing that makes me cringe on the show. Everything, fantastic..I love the show. But when they begin talking about world politics, I have to say, I have to cringe... anyway, hea, each to his own!
2 years, 6 months ago by runningwithbulls
Wow this is the first Jaiku argument I've seen.... (reaches for popcorn) ;)
2 years, 6 months ago by dantheman
argument? phew get of my lawn, kids, you haven't seen a real argument! :)
2 years, 6 months ago by overpills
dan@ hah. well i am not sure if its an argument, but i think its important. hea i don't want to tell anyone how to run their highly successful show :) but these things make me cringe.
2 years, 6 months ago by runningwithbulls
Well maybe you're right. It's not a real argument unless someone gets arrested at the end ;)
2 years, 6 months ago by dantheman
/me trys to do a familyguy voice....argument? "Brrrrrriiing it oooonnnnnnnn"!!!
2 years, 6 months ago by runningwithbulls
Family Guy is great. I like the fights he has with that guy in the chicken suit :D
2 years, 6 months ago by dantheman
To everyone who doesn't know me, Hi I'm Mike and uh hope you don't mind me weighing in but...
I don't like Leo saying A-rab because he says it like he knows that regardless of it's exact implication he knows he's treading a fine line and seems not to care.
Now I'm all for pushing the envelope but do it for a reason other than to be flippant and pass an offhand comment that isn't worth it's weight in cheese. Basically the inclusion of the word in a tech podcast serves no purpose. I flinched when I heard it.
2 years, 6 months ago by STRA8EGIC
i have a great problem this this tendency to designate different people to talk about different things - and no merge allowed. i think what Leo says may represent attitude of a lot of people and whether you like it or not - it is what it is, better deal with it than live in imaginary reality
2 years, 6 months ago by overpills
@overpills: hea....hmm, "what Leo says may represent attitude of a lot of people and whether you like it or not " I know for a fact what he mentioned about Iran, etc does not represent the attitude of alot of people from where I live...I have to say I disagree with you....on one main reason: if TWiT was solely American/English/Irish/[insert country here] based and solely for that market, then the TWiTs are entitled to say whatever the hell they like about other countries, as well, those countries will never (realistically) hear it.
For example: if I listened to a podcast that spoke about my country in a bad way, I would choose not to listen to it. If that podcast was only available to a certain country, etc..then fine, I do not have access to it, and therefore cannot complain.
But, with the sheer borderless features of the Internet (...and therefore podcasts) podcasters have to be slightly more understanding/open to other peoples feelings.
@mike: I am all for walking the cliff edge of what-to-say, but when you say things that are clearly not correct, then you should not say them at all. [Clearly I mean the same thing as you say!]
It really showed an unpleasant said of the TWiTs. And I didn't like it.
But hea, this wasn't meant as a "troll" message. If people are comfortable to continue, then fine with me.
2 years, 6 months ago by runningwithbulls
i don't think he was expressing negative attitude. rather careless one and this is how a lot of people approach it - i study these things, for once i know the numbers.
my point isn't in discussing his approach, maybe i didn't make myself clear. it's the tendency to tell people that are not informed not to speak, so that we can live in false conviction that uninformed people have an opinion and it matters - for example when it votes.
2 years, 6 months ago by overpills
No, I didn't say that it was a negative attitude..if he believes X, or Y, then fine. His views are his.
Careless-yes. And he being an International broadcaster, should just think when he (as everyone should) says something "off topic".
When he mentioned the terrible shootings in Virginia (I think) he dealt with that quite well. Did it belong in the show? Nope (as much as video games were mentioned). Did he have the right to talk about it? Definately. But he dealt with it well.
Making cheap shots at those I-raqis, I-ranians, whatever....I dunno, just makes me kinda flench. Like watching someone on TV digging a hole for themselves.
I am not as well informed in the ways of International politics (as I would like to!), but these kind of throw away comments regarding America/Iraq/Iran/whereverinthe_world annoy me.
Yes there are bad people in Iraq, yes there are bad people in Iran, yes there are bad people in America...but there are also good people.
If the American army can create a computer game, why can't the Iranian, or the Irish, or the Polish?
2 years, 6 months ago by runningwithbulls