me neither, though, but it could be useful for other market indicators. there's the defunct XEP-0067: Stock Data Transmission which looks interesting. Based on it, there could be one for weather reports.
(repost) I don't know any open XML format but just came across the National Digital Forecast Database (NDFD) Extensible Markup Language http://www.weather.gov/xml/
:) - I'm wondering if using ATOM would be relevant as those messages would trigger notification by default whereas weather forecasts are mostly for monitoring and hence could be treated as presence like with PEP.
PEP is a subset of the publish-subscribe extension and just a delivery mechanism, and has nothing to do with presence. A better word than presence here would be availability information. Weather information is orthogonal to that, obviously, so it shouldn't be treated as 'presence' as such. Atom could be relevant because it is a data format, and sure, you could render weather information using Atom, it could have a title, a summary, a last-updated and a link, with then some additional data.
an addendum on why it would be useful to have weather pubsub messages : see the screenshot of this weather bot http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weatherdb9.png . It uses presence, user-mood and XEP-0153 vcard image to display the forecast fetched from the Yahoo RSS feed which contains a code element pointing to an image of the current forecast. and it's very useful from an ergonomic point of view to not be interrupted for this kind of information and also to use "semiotic information" (in that case, the vcard image) instead of semantic one. ATOM for sure would be great, but I'm wondering if it would trigger a notification.
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sounds like fun, though I don't follow any stocks...
1 year, 6 months ago by stpeter
me neither, though, but it could be useful for other market indicators. there's the defunct XEP-0067: Stock Data Transmission which looks interesting. Based on it, there could be one for weather reports.
1 year, 6 months ago by kael
is there an open XML format for weather updates? perhaps an Atom extension?
1 year, 6 months ago by stpeter
(repost) I don't know any open XML format but just came across the National Digital Forecast Database (NDFD) Extensible Markup Language http://www.weather.gov/xml/
1 year, 6 months ago by kael
well, there ya go!
1 year, 6 months ago by stpeter
:) - I'm wondering if using ATOM would be relevant as those messages would trigger notification by default whereas weather forecasts are mostly for monitoring and hence could be treated as presence like with PEP.
1 year, 6 months ago by kael
yes this could be done with PEP for sure
1 year, 6 months ago by stpeter
see also https://stpeter.im/?p=2179 :)
1 year, 6 months ago by stpeter
yeah, I read this post. Interestingly, there's a mention of pubsub @ http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/projects/iembot/ : "XMPP Pubsub node is still in the works" but I can't find where.
1 year, 6 months ago by kael
PEP is a subset of the publish-subscribe extension and just a delivery mechanism, and has nothing to do with presence. A better word than presence here would be availability information. Weather information is orthogonal to that, obviously, so it shouldn't be treated as 'presence' as such. Atom could be relevant because it is a data format, and sure, you could render weather information using Atom, it could have a title, a summary, a last-updated and a link, with then some additional data.
1 year, 6 months ago by ralphm
yes, you're right. but I was considering the way ATOM messages would be treated with current implementations compared to PEP ones.
1 year, 6 months ago by kael
an addendum on why it would be useful to have weather pubsub messages : see the screenshot of this weather bot http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weatherdb9.png . It uses presence, user-mood and XEP-0153 vcard image to display the forecast fetched from the Yahoo RSS feed which contains a code element pointing to an image of the current forecast. and it's very useful from an ergonomic point of view to not be interrupted for this kind of information and also to use "semiotic information" (in that case, the vcard image) instead of semantic one. ATOM for sure would be great, but I'm wondering if it would trigger a notification.
1 year, 6 months ago by kael