Right. I was thinking doubling from 64 on the 770 to 128 on the N800 was nice, but another doubling would be even better. I'd rather have more ram and the same CPU as the N800. Either way, I'm sold.
The specs look very close to the N800. The main differences are 1) slider, 2) built-in GPS, 3) 2GB fixed 'internal' card rather than the internal card slot of the N800. It still listed 128MB RAM/256MB Flash, just like the N800 has. The only reason I can think of for going with the fixed 2gb internal 'card' is one of space reasons, to fit the slider mechanism in plus the GPS. Personally, I'd prefer they had kept the internal card slot.
All in all, I don't see a reason to upgrade to this from my N800. I am pretty comfortable (& quick) at typing on the virtual keyboard on the N800, and I don't really need a built-in GPS. Since they don't seem to have really upgraded any of the rest of the guts of the device, it's gonna be a hard sell to existing N800 users.
The N810 spec sheet listed the CPU at 400mhz. Anyone recall what the speed of the N800's CPU is?
speaking of, has the virtual ram limit been removed? On the n800 you could designate part of your internal memory card as virtual memory, but only up to 128mb
@rcadden: I keep it in hands, but probably it is better if @NseriesWOMWorld will help you with pics - I'm not perfect in things description for sales purposes ;)
How about the screen?? Is this the kind with touch membrane or is it all glass? Also does the slide out keyboard have to be open in order for GPS to function properly (like on N95..if closed GPS antenna is obstructed by the screen and has a crippled reception)
speaking of, has the virtual ram limit been removed? On the n800 you could designate part of your internal memory card as virtual memory, but only up to 128mb: the max size for virtual memory is still 128mb
question from Internet Tablet Talk: I notice the light sensor there above the camera. Will that provide for gradual dimming of the screen brightness or just two levels like the N95?
Does the new OS contain a (standardized) kenetic scroller widget for developers to use, rather than everyone having to re-invent one as is currently being done?
Any other notable changes for developer widgets/APIs?
@CAW, it seems that the new IT OS (Chinook) is not providing the standardized kinetic scrolling widget. Luckily there is the Miaouw Library available for everyone to use under LGPL in Maemo Garage.
let's name it - we haven't had enough time to test N800 on higher freq to be sure what we do, and one has no power over time in sense of squeezing it to run thorough testing.
I don't think it's either.. the N810 just has the ability to meter the CPU so when you need it it's maxed and when you don't you get more battery life.
@silpol I would assume that it's a conscious decision whether to underclock or overclock the processor. How well it might actually do in that situation is a matter of what QA says. ;) The new version certainly seems faster, though.
Transflective screen, is it finally included on this iteration? How viewable is the screen in direct sunlight?
Is there a hard case included like the nokia 770?
PM: Yes we have new screen that works better in sunlight.
No we do not have same kind of hard case as for 770. But we have improved the pouch from N800, no it's bit thicker and gives better protection for the device.
question from Internet Tablet Talk: I notice the light sensor there above the camera. Will that provide for gradual dimming of the screen brightness or just two levels like the N95?
PM: yes that's ambient light sensor, it automatically adjust the lightness of the display and keyboard lights
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Will we see some new accessories with this new tablet launch as well?
2 years, 1 month ago by NET9
why only 2gb built in? with the iphone/ipod touch having at least 4gb, and up to 8gb?
2 years, 1 month ago by rcadden
Sorry if this was written somewhere in the specs, I may have missed it -- are there two memory card slots on the N810?
2 years, 1 month ago by jezlyn
@jezlyn, nope, just one miniSD
2 years, 1 month ago by rcadden
Is that a Navi Wheel? As in an N81 Navi Wheel?
2 years, 1 month ago by thecreativelife
@thecreativelife: Good question... That would be cool, though I guess since the whole screen is a touch interface, it probably isn't.
2 years, 1 month ago by jezlyn
Just wondering why the screen resolution colours wasn't up to perhaps 262k?
2 years, 1 month ago by adonisdemon
Is that really enough RAM? I will buy one but my 770 with 64meg was a little painful.
2 years, 1 month ago by EricSeale
I saw 128mb of ram on the spec sheet
2 years, 1 month ago by rcadden
Right. I was thinking doubling from 64 on the 770 to 128 on the N800 was nice, but another doubling would be even better. I'd rather have more ram and the same CPU as the N800. Either way, I'm sold.
2 years, 1 month ago by EricSeale
The specs look very close to the N800. The main differences are 1) slider, 2) built-in GPS, 3) 2GB fixed 'internal' card rather than the internal card slot of the N800. It still listed 128MB RAM/256MB Flash, just like the N800 has. The only reason I can think of for going with the fixed 2gb internal 'card' is one of space reasons, to fit the slider mechanism in plus the GPS. Personally, I'd prefer they had kept the internal card slot.
All in all, I don't see a reason to upgrade to this from my N800. I am pretty comfortable (& quick) at typing on the virtual keyboard on the N800, and I don't really need a built-in GPS. Since they don't seem to have really upgraded any of the rest of the guts of the device, it's gonna be a hard sell to existing N800 users.
The N810 spec sheet listed the CPU at 400mhz. Anyone recall what the speed of the N800's CPU is?
2 years, 1 month ago by CAW
speaking of, has the virtual ram limit been removed? On the n800 you could designate part of your internal memory card as virtual memory, but only up to 128mb
2 years, 1 month ago by rcadden
no NaviWheel - for sure; you prolly mixed up stylus "head" ;)
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
speakin of, what's the stylts look like? Same awkward half-triangle?
2 years, 1 month ago by rcadden
@rcadden: I keep it in hands, but probably it is better if @NseriesWOMWorld will help you with pics - I'm not perfect in things description for sales purposes ;)
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
@CAW, 330 MHz, but there are hacks to make it run faster. The processor is really the same.
2 years, 1 month ago by hhedberg
Does the N810 have TV out? Sorry if this is a dim question, for all I know the N800 has TV out already! (^_^)
2 years, 1 month ago by thecreativelife
@thecreativelife: NO tv-out, and N800 doesn't either - at least officially.
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
@abhishta: ask that question in SW product manager thread #comments" target="_new">http://jaiku.com/channel/NseriesSanFranLaunch/presence/14641925#comments ;)
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
Does the camera app have video capture?
2 years, 1 month ago by thecreativelife
wlll the N810 be officially for sale in Canada unlike the N800? Be great if it was!
2 years, 1 month ago by roland
How about the screen?? Is this the kind with touch membrane or is it all glass? Also does the slide out keyboard have to be open in order for GPS to function properly (like on N95..if closed GPS antenna is obstructed by the screen and has a crippled reception)
2 years, 1 month ago by ordxpres
Hi, here's the product manager. please send me your comments.
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
rcadded: there's memory expansion slot to expand memory in N810
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
jezlyn: jezlyn
Sorry if this was written somewhere in the specs, I may have missed it -- are there two memory card slots on the N810?
There's 2GB internal memory and one memory card slop
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
Is that a Navi Wheel? As in an N81 Navi Wheel?
5 hours ago by thecreativelife.: No it is not like in N81
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
speaking of, has the virtual ram limit been removed? On the n800 you could designate part of your internal memory card as virtual memory, but only up to 128mb: the max size for virtual memory is still 128mb
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
The N810 spec sheet listed the CPU at 400mhz. Anyone recall what the speed of the N800's CPU is?
The speed of CPU is dependent on OS version, with OS 2008 we run also N800 CPU at 400mhz
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
Does the N810 have TV out? Sorry if this is a dim question, for all I know the N800 has TV out already! (^_^)
Neither N800 or N810 has TV out
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
Question from Internet Tablet Talk: Are we expecting to use our finger more to navigate web pages (a la iPhone/iPod Touch) since they hid the joypad?
2 years, 1 month ago by rsuplido
Does the camera app have video capture?
camera is used in voip video calls
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
question from Internet Tablet Talk: What's with the angled notch on the upper left of the device above the camera?
2 years, 1 month ago by rsuplido
question from Internet Tablet Talk: I notice the light sensor there above the camera. Will that provide for gradual dimming of the screen brightness or just two levels like the N95?
2 years, 1 month ago by rsuplido
Transflective screen, is it finally included on this iteration? How viewable is the screen in direct sunlight?
Is there a hard case included like the nokia 770?
2 years, 1 month ago by phi
Does the new OS contain a (standardized) kenetic scroller widget for developers to use, rather than everyone having to re-invent one as is currently being done?
Any other notable changes for developer widgets/APIs?
2 years, 1 month ago by CAW
@CAW, it seems that the new IT OS (Chinook) is not providing the standardized kinetic scrolling widget. Luckily there is the Miaouw Library available for everyone to use under LGPL in Maemo Garage.
2 years, 1 month ago by hhedberg
So we're overclocking the CPU in the N800 with the new release? Or were were underclocking it before?
2 years, 1 month ago by phoneboy
@phoneboy: re overclocking the CPU in the N800
let's name it - we haven't had enough time to test N800 on higher freq to be sure what we do, and one has no power over time in sense of squeezing it to run thorough testing.
2 years, 1 month ago by silpol
I don't think it's either.. the N810 just has the ability to meter the CPU so when you need it it's maxed and when you don't you get more battery life.
2 years, 1 month ago by atmasphere
Mary Meeker: "The mobile device space is a rugby scrum"
2 years, 1 month ago by JamesPearce
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2 years, 1 month ago by JamesPearce
@silpol I would assume that it's a conscious decision whether to underclock or overclock the processor. How well it might actually do in that situation is a matter of what QA says. ;) The new version certainly seems faster, though.
2 years, 1 month ago by phoneboy
Hi, here product manager!
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
Transflective screen, is it finally included on this iteration? How viewable is the screen in direct sunlight?
Is there a hard case included like the nokia 770?
PM: Yes we have new screen that works better in sunlight.
No we do not have same kind of hard case as for 770. But we have improved the pouch from N800, no it's bit thicker and gives better protection for the device.
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
question from Internet Tablet Talk: What's with the angled notch on the upper left of the device above the camera?
PM: I suppose you mean the led. User can define what events are shown with the led. Please go to settings/control panel/display
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager
question from Internet Tablet Talk: I notice the light sensor there above the camera. Will that provide for gradual dimming of the screen brightness or just two levels like the N95?
PM: yes that's ambient light sensor, it automatically adjust the lightness of the display and keyboard lights
2 years, 1 month ago by N810productmanager